Hello Base Camp!

I'm working with the 55th Cascadia to create an umbrella nonprofit that all duly chartered BPSA groups in Portland Oregon could share. The 45th Columbia River in Washington State helped us with this idea.

Questions for HQ:

1-Is there official correspondence that will indicate when a group has successfully chartered, from BPSA-US' point of view? I'd like to include a provision in our by-laws about when a group is official.

2- In which state is BPSA-US registered as a nonprofit? Our local organization could identify  the national organization as a recipient of any assets we might own should we ever dissolve.

Thanks, much!

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BPSA HQ is in the process of obtaining non-profit status right now which I believe is going to extend to all chartered groups.  I believe the paperwork is all filed, just a matter of waiting for the government to process it.  I'm not an expert, but it sounds like individual groups (or groups of groups) obtaining nonprofit status would be redundant?

Can HQ comment on dates?  Any ideas when it should be finalized?

With regard to question one, I too would like to know that answer.  Have already been asked for some 'proof' that we are chartered with BPSA national.  Of course, I am not yet - but that's not the point.

Kevin

Yes, Kevin is right. The non-profit status that BPSA has applied for and will receive soon (within a few months?) will indeed extend to all groups. Be patient; it's coming! :)

I believe the new paperwork that was filed will have us based in the state of Missouri.


Kevin King said:

BPSA HQ is in the process of obtaining non-profit status right now which I believe is going to extend to all chartered groups.  I believe the paperwork is all filed, just a matter of waiting for the government to process it.  I'm not an expert, but it sounds like individual groups (or groups of groups) obtaining nonprofit status would be redundant?

Can HQ comment on dates?  Any ideas when it should be finalized?

With regard to question one, I too would like to know that answer.  Have already been asked for some 'proof' that we are chartered with BPSA national.  Of course, I am not yet - but that's not the point.

Kevin

Thank you, Jeff and Kevin. I'm told the IRS can issue an employer identification number (EIN) fast, even before full 501(c)(3) status is announced. The 636th would like to use an EIN to open our bank account. Our goal is to open our account within the next few weeks so that we can process registrations this fall and avoid mixing personal funds with BPSA Group funds. We can probably achieve this goal on our own by forming a nonprofit here in Oregon, or we could try to open a bank account using the EIN that BPSA-US receives and see how that goes.

What are your thoughts on this? Should we all be using your EIN to open our local accounts?

I'm wondering this, as well, regarding the EIN. Nice work on the application! Thanks for all you do to keep the wheels rolling!

What are existing groups doing now for bank accounts?  I'd like for people to write checks made out to our scout group name and not me personally.  For dues particuarly.

Kevin

 

Just reviving this thread as we are in the same position.  We've had parents write out checks to the GSM directly but we're not comfortable with that going forward.  If 501c is truly just a month or two away we can wait.  Will you be posting to this thread when that comes through?  Is there a mailing list for GSMs out there where this sort of official information is sent?  Thanks for all the hard work!

Great news, everyone: BPSA is officially a 501(c)(3)!!!

David received the determination letter from the IRS today. Our Federal EIN number, for reference or public record purposes, is 46-1728425.

Jeff - Wonderful news and thanks for sharing! Achieving not-for-profit status opens important doors for BPSA - the ability to leverage tax deductions for financial donors, and pursuing extension of liability coverage to officers and volunteers for the organization. It also legitimizes our movement in terms of standard business practices. 

I'd be interested in guidelines for how we can use this news to communicate about BPSA, and how to encourage philanthropists and donors to engage. I know its early, but please count me in if there's any discussion of creating a development team to support our collective work!

Finally - thanks to all who helped bring this about! This is a significant development and one that we should all pause to celebrate!

-Andy

This is a really important step for BPSA-US. I agree with Andy: having some guidance about how local BPSA groups may use the national organization's status would be helpful. For example, may we manage group bank accounts at the local level using BPSA-US' EIN?

Very good news! And thank you!

--Philip

Reviving this thread because we are at the point where we need to open a local bank account, hoping to do so by mid-March (2014, noting since this is an older thread). 

I applied for an EIN for 14th Treaty Oak (under our local group name). I noted on our application that we were a local chapter of a national organization.

My questions (and I apologize if they've been answered elsewhere, please direct me to the right spot if so):

1. Do we need to supply our local credit union with the tax exempt number issued to BPSA-US or other evidence of nonprofit status?

2. The credit union requires our EIN letter. We have one in hand for our local unit, but should we use the EIN for BPSA-US (above) instead?

3. Our plan for the moment is to have myself (GSM) and one each of our adult leaders (Otters & T'wolves) as signatories, but does anyone have a better arrangement or advice on this topic?

Thanks!

wen

Wendy,

Last we heard from David on this (in early January), this was still up in the air regarding BPSA's EIN and extending tax-exempt status to our groups. From what I understand from that thread, they had to refile the paperwork with the IRS...

It was previously mentioned here last October that we weren't supposed to use the EIN when setting up bank accounts for our groups, either. Not sure if that has changed in reference to the above paperwork refiling or not.

So I'd say NO on the BPSA EIN (use your own group's instead if you have one), and regarding signatories, that's entirely up to you. GSM, Scoutmaster, Cubmaster, and Treasurer and/or Quartermaster of your group (from your Auxiliary Committee) would be the most obvious choices.

Hope this helps.

It does help. Thanks, Jeff!!

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